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The Tom Schimmer Podcast is a show about learning, leadership, and life. Primarily, it’s a podcast that focuses on current topics in K-12 education. Each week, Tom Schimmer (a best-selling education author, keynote speaker, and consultant) will lean on his 30 years of experience to keep listeners informed and entertained on the prevailing stories dominating the conversations about teaching and learning. This podcast also focuses on educational leadership by exploring how leaders can truly engineer a culture of continued professional growth. Occasionally, this podcast will explore the pursuit of success and happiness as it relates to any walk of life. Through a mix of interviews, commentary, current news stories, questions from listeners, and other segments, listeners will be well-equipped to meet the needs of learners regardless of what role they serve.
Episodes

Monday Oct 10, 2022
Must Be Measurable | John Hattie | The Good Ol’ Test
Monday Oct 10, 2022
Monday Oct 10, 2022
In Don’t @ Me (2:37), Tom shares his thoughts on how anything schools want to count in the court of public opinion must be measurable. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. John Hattie (12:25) for part two of a conversation about the Visible Learning research. Finally, in Assessment Corner (52:38), Tom discusses the good ol’ test, and how it can still fit within a balanced approach to assessment.
- Visible Learning Website: www.visible-learning.org
- Hattie Foundation Website: www.hattieff.org
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
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- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Michigan Assessment Consortium
- November 2, 2022 (1:00-3:30pm ET)
- November 2, 2022 (1:00-3:30pm ET)
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Oct 03, 2022
Quiet Quitting | John Hattie | Willful Distortion
Monday Oct 03, 2022
Monday Oct 03, 2022
In Don’t @ Me (2:15), Tom shares his thoughts on the recent social media phenomenon called "Quiet Quitting." Then, Tom is joined by Dr. John Hattie (12:16) for part one of a conversation about the Visible Learning research. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:11), Tom discusses why it might be time to push back against those who push back at the elimination of punitive grading practices.
- Visible Learning Website: www.visible-learning.org
- Hattie Foundation Website: www.hattieff.org
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
-
- Virtual Workshop (Octo. 4 & 11, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
- Michigan Assessment Consortium
- November 2, 2022 (1:00-3:30pm ET)
- November 2, 2022 (1:00-3:30pm ET)
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Sep 26, 2022
Can You Be Led? | Connie Hamilton | Fractured Relationship
Monday Sep 26, 2022
Monday Sep 26, 2022
In Don’t @ Me (2:53), Tom opens by asking us all to consider whether we can set our egos aside and be open to being led. Then, Tom is joined by educator and author Connie Hamilton (9:33) to discuss her book, “Hacking Questions: 11 Answers that Create a Culture of Inquiry in your Classroom.” Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:38), Tom identifies the six most common ways the relationship between the formative and summative assessment paradigms gets fractured, making grading reform more difficult.
- Connie on Twitter: @conniehamilton
- Connie on Linkedin: Connie Hamilton
- Connie's Website: www.conniehamilton.org
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Virtual Workshop (Octo. 4 & 11, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
- Michigan Assessment Consortium
- November 2, 2022 (1:00-3:30pm ET)
- November 2, 2022 (1:00-3:30pm ET)
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Sep 19, 2022
Reborn a Critic | Livia Chan | Synthesizing Standards
Monday Sep 19, 2022
Monday Sep 19, 2022
In Don't @ Me (5:29), Tom declares that in his next life, he wants to return as a critic. Then, Tom is joined by author, speaker, and Teach Better Digital Coordinator Livia Chan (11:16) to discuss the importance of building strong relationships with our students. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:48), Tom talks about why synthesizing our standards is the only way to authentically cover and assess them.
- Livia on Twitter: @LiviaChanL
- Livia on Instagram: @liviachanl
- Livia on Facebook: Livia Chan
- Livia on Linkedin: Livia Chan
- Livia's Website: www.livchan.com
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Virtual Workshop (Octo. 4 & 11, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Sep 12, 2022
Answer the Question | Joe Sanfelippo | Jackpot!
Monday Sep 12, 2022
Monday Sep 12, 2022
In Don't @ Me (2:41), Tom shares his thoughts on why it is so important to answer people's questions, especially in online forums, and why performative pontifications are the highest form of disrespect. Then, Tom is joined by Joe Sanfelippo (8:35) to discuss effective school and district leadership. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:28), Tom talks about why student investment is the ultimate Jackpot regarding our assessment literacy.
- Joe on Twitter: @Joe_Sanfelippo
- Joe on Instagram: @joe_sanfelippo
- Joe on Linkedin: Joe Sanfelippo
- Joe's Website: www.jsanfelippo.com
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Virtual Workshop (Octo. 4 & 11, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Aug 29, 2022
Spoiler Rules | Lindsay Titus | Sustaining Change
Monday Aug 29, 2022
Monday Aug 29, 2022
In Don't @ Me (3:21), Tom outlines what he believes the societal rules surrounding "no spoilers" should be. Then, Tom is joined by Lindsay Titus (11:19) to discuss how educators can maintain some semblance of balance through the inevitable stress that comes with any school year. Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (51:46), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about how to sustain change efforts in assessment & grading.
- Lindsay on Twitter: @ltitus828
- Lindsay on Instagram: @lindsaytitusedu
- Lindsay's Website: www.defineyouniversity.com
- Podcast: Define YOUniversity
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
- Nat on Twitter: @natabasso
- EduCrush on Twitter: @educrushpod
- EduCrush Podcast: #EduCrush on Apple
- Empowerment Ecosystem: Book Here!
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Aug 15, 2022
Teaching Still Matters | Lainie Rowell | Leadership Blindspots
Monday Aug 15, 2022
Monday Aug 15, 2022
In Don't @ Me (2:32), Tom expresses his frustration with those teachers who seem to want to run away from referring to themselves as "teachers." Then, Tom is joined by Lainie Rowell (11:24) to discuss her latest book, "Evolving with Gratitude: Small Practices in Learning Communities That Make a Big Difference with Kids, Peers, and the World." Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (57:11), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about some Leadership Blindspots when it comes to leading the efforts to create a new assessment and grading paradigm in a school.
- Lainie on Twitter: @LainieRowell
- Lainie on Instagram: @lainierowell
- Lainie on Facebook: Lainie Rowell
- Lainie on LinkedIn: Lainie Rowell
- EWG on Apple Podcasts: EWG Podcast
- EWG on Spotify: EWG Podcast
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
- Nat on Twitter: @natabasso
- EduCrush on Twitter: @educrushpod
- EduCrush Podcast: #EduCrush on Apple
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Aug 01, 2022
We Must Listen | Nathan Wear | Gradeless vs Grade Less
Monday Aug 01, 2022
Monday Aug 01, 2022
In Don't @ Me (2:36), Tom expresses his concern that if we can't listen to one another and empathize without agreeing, then the divides in our society will further deepen. Then, Tom is joined by Nathan Wear (14:02) to discuss his book, "Making Grades Matter: Standards-Based Grading in a Secondary PLC at Work." Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (52:13), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about whether it's "Gradeless" or "Grade Less."
- Nathan on Twitter: @Nathan_Wear
- MGM on Twitter: @GradesMatterSBG
NEW BOOK BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
- Nat on Twitter: @natabasso
- EduCrush on Twitter: @educrushpod
- EduCrush Podcast: #EduCrush on Apple
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Jul 18, 2022
Friends like Family | Gholdy Muhammad | Assessing Competencies
Monday Jul 18, 2022
Monday Jul 18, 2022
In Don't @ Me (2:16), Tom reflects after a camping trip about his core group of friends who are more like family. Then, Tom is joined by Gholdy Muhammad (11:51) to discuss her book, "Cultivating Genius, an Equity Framework for Culturally and Historically Responsive Literacy." Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (46:40), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about how to assess 21st-century competencies.
NEW BOOK BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
- Nat on Twitter: @natabasso
- EduCrush on Twitter: @educrushpod
- EduCrush Podcast: #EduCrush on Apple
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com

Monday Jul 04, 2022
Tales from MTL | Tyrone McNeil | Assessment Analogies
Monday Jul 04, 2022
Monday Jul 04, 2022
In Don't @ Me (2:53), Tom recounts his trip to Montreal with his son to see their first-ever Formula 1 race. Then, Tom is joined by FNESC President Tyrone McNeil (19:46) to discuss the state of indigenous education. Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (1:04:56), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about some effective analogies that help clarify some complex assessment topics.
- Tyrone on Twitter: @STCTye
- Tyrone on LinkedIn: Tyrone McNeil
NEW BOOK BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Annual Conference on Assessment & Grading
- Austin, TX (July 18-20, 2022)
- Grading from the Inside Out (2-Day Workshop)
- Long Beach, CA (September 21-22, 2022)
-
- Minneapolis, MN (December 1-2, 2022)
- Teach Better Conference (CODE: Schimmer22)
- Akron, OH (October 14-15, 2022)
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
- Nat on Twitter: @natabasso
- EduCrush on Twitter: @educrushpod
- EduCrush Podcast: #EduCrush on Apple
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
- Twitter: @TomSchimmerPod
- Twitter: @TomSchimmer
- Instagram: @tomschimmerpodcast
- TikTok: @tomschimmerpodcast
- Facebook: Schimmer Education
- Website: www.tomschimmer.com